[FFML] [Naruto] Memories Lie chapters 3-4

[Nugar]

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Aaron Nowack <anowack at mimiru.net> wrote:
> Juho Saarikko wrote:
>  > Coming to think of it, if Naruto tranformed into a dog and a shuriken,
>  > then I answered my own earlier question: neither mass nor basic shape
>  > are conserved. So either the transformation is purely an illusion - so
>  > turning into a hawk wouldn't give Naruto an ability to fly - or he
>  > simply didn't think of it.
>
>  Oh boy!  Jutsu-babble time!  I love jutsu-babble  :)
>
>  With the lack of limitations shown in canon, an "actual complete
>  physical shapeshift" answer to "what exactly does Henge do?" makes that
>  jutsu obscenely powerful, to the point that it really does harm the
>  coherence of the setting.  (After all, it's supposed to be one of the
>  three simplest and easiest jutsu...)

$Realistically speaking, a ninja would be able to do all the important
parts of being a ninja with just those three skills plus some acting
skills and a good knife.  Sneak in with henge, distract with bunshin,
stab someone with the knife, then, when the guards show up, kawarimi
out of there.  Everything else is just overpowered fighting spells,
except for genjutsu, and there's relatively little love for genjutsu.

>  It is classified as a ninjutsu, and not a genjutsu, so it isn't just an
>  illusion.  (And, more importantly, IIRC there's a couple of instances
>  where we do see henge-d things interact physically in ways their "real"
>  forms wouldn't be able to.)
>
>  So, basically, it's one of several areas that it doesn't seem Kishimoto
>  thought through all the way.

$Ain't that the truth.  And so he doesn't focus on it at all in the story.

I bet Dr. Tofu could explain how it all works.  You could ask him...

If you could find him.

>  Since most of the cases where we see "weird stuff" get done with Henge
>  are from Naruto, we can limit it a bit by postulating that it takes
>  obscene amounts of chakra to do that sort of thing.  Although canon
>  doesn't really support this, it doesn't contradict this either.
>
>  (In One Hundred Days, the primary limitation I used was that any sort of
>  physical stress - of which flying would definitely count - would dispel
>  the transformation.)

$For People Lie and its subsequent story arcs, I simply added the
jutsu 'hensou' to the list as a higher ranked henge that uses more
chakra to make the transformation more stable and able to take hits.
It'd be mostly used by jounin, because of the chakra costs, but for
Naruto it's basically free.  This isn't so much to give him a super
powered skill as is it to reflect the character's love, and
pathological NEED, to hide his true self away from the world.  Canon
Naruto uses the Orioke no Jutsu to draw attention to himself, * Lie
Naruto uses it to draw attention away from himself.  His real self,
that is.  Cause I'm trying to be all literary and stuff.

As far as things like the transformation into a fuuma shuriken or a
bird or whatever, I'm doing the exact same thing I'm doing with the
generally reviled elemental system Kishimoto offered us.

I'm ignoring it.  Unlike some things, such as the fact that almost
none of the main characters are taught any significant ninjutsu by
their teachers, which I have Anko cover the reasons for in the next
chapter, I will handle the mechanics of henge and the elemental system
by simply ignoring it and never ever letting it become an issue in the
story.  Kishimoto does this quite a bit, so I figured I'd borrow more
than just a few characters and a setting, and actually copy part of
his writing style.

-Nugar